I am full body possessing (or maybe just using hands on an otherwise stationary body?) but I don't feel like my host is any less here or out than he normally is.. He's just not the one shouting in mindvoice or violently typing away
Possession should be, the tulpa controlling a part or parts of the body while the host remains in whatever state you consider them to still be "fronting" in. Expanding the reach of the possession to the entire body is then "full-body possession". The difference in full-body possession and switching, then, is either "None at all" by one argument as was proposed during this conversation, or a certain mental position the tulpa must be in in place of the host - optionally exclusively requiring the host to dissociate, although by recent years on tulpa.info's standards, there's a type of association the tulpa must also do aside from standard body association as done with possession.
The big problem, then, is that every since 2014 we've seen people claim "Full-body possession" (and over time, simply possession) while achieving a supposedly switched-like state.
And the only thing they said consistently, was that a host wasn't switched if they weren't dissociated into the wonderland. The opposition simply claimed the wonderland was irrelevant.
11:55 AM
If you think the definition is otherwise, you were never the majority.
11:56 AM
As far as I'm concerned, Sands is as old as "consensus" on Tulpamancy gets.
I mean, not that he was necessarily representative of a true consensus, so much as he was chosen as a Guide approver and had extensive experience with terms and methods.
@Tulpabug "tulpas need attention to function unless they are fronting" is what I always say, you can't just ignore that last part and claim something of me that is not true
But if you have strong parallel processing like we do, it becomes very very hard for him to get greyed out. I have to be in really intense emotional states to damage our parallel processing :p
The host must not be engaged with the senses any more than the average tulpa, else they aren't switched out. If they're still switched in and so is the tulpa, they're co-fronting, but that's very blurry territory on .info.
I mean, it's literally not switching by definition of the word "switch" lol, but you may still accomplish the same thing as switching on the tulpa's half.
Best not to forget that, at any and all times, none of us are experiencing the exact same things and no matter how concise our terminology we never will.
To be fair tewi, I think there's a ton of confabulation regarding what tulpas who are "backing" are doing. For the most part, I think tulpas are told and expected they are active in wonderland while not fronting, but they're often going idle and memory fabrication occurs based on their ambiguity during that time and the expectation from the host
If you haven't been on .info recently, then for reference, the idea that tulpas must be active in the wonderland when otherwise inactive has really, really died down in recent years.
I trained for years to do parallel processing and I can only fuck off to wonderland for like 3 minutes before the lack of physical stimulus or host thoughts calling out to me before I lose myself :p
12:05 PM
No way can a group of underdeveloped tulpas run a full-scale city simulation while their host is at work lol
Hello, this has been on our mind a bit. It's fairly common for hosts to claim that their tulpas can stay active in the wonderland even when they're not being paid attention to, and some even say that